We need a conduit to free ourselves from the deception and bring about a consciousness of reality. When Americans have a clear mind, they can do and change anything.

The people of America are being manipulated into believing that politicians have our best interest at hand, nothing could be further from the truth.

The political policies of our world are not for the sovereignty of humanity or nations. It is for the purpose of transforming the world into a global government, controlled by the elite under the guise of protecting humanity and the earth.

The policies that have been enacted in the UN and other world bodies are to slowly convert our way of life into a modern age serfdom.

These same politicians want you to believe that everything happens by chance and that they are implementing changes to laws to circumvent the random events as they come about.

It is in your best interest to distrust those in power and to believe the exact opposite to find the truth.

Actions do speak louder than words and when you read the facts and then watch the actions of these elected criminals, you will find a whole different world which goes against the rhetoric they continue to convey.

The choice is very simple, do Americans continue on a path of enslavement or do we rise up and take back our natural freedoms and put a stop to the contrived manipulation?

If you could associate with affluent like minded people, get exclusive, confidential, never before released information about past and future knowledge and share this information with like minded people, would you do it?

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Keep GOD first.

Family & Friends second.

The rest seems irrelevant to me.

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Enough is enough!!!!!!!!

http://notyrants.blogspot.com/

If someone calls you a racist, recognize they are losing the debate.

When they play the race card, toss it away and don’t play their game.

All they will do when they are losing is change the rules

Michelle Obama hates us!]]> 2009-12-06T12:34:20-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1497522301.html text 2009-12-06T12:34:20-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1497397597.html http://www.gcnlive.com/mediaPlayers/odPlayer.php?program=worldCrisis]]> 2009-12-06T11:02:17-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1497397597.html text 2009-12-06T11:02:17-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1497386173.html WAKE UP! Stop being a Parrot, or a paid disinfo agent and Go Check the FACTS Jack or Jill. All over the world, the Truth is getting out and Global Warming is a Scam. Now, I do believe we need to be taking care of our environment better, but this Scam is designed to take away our sovereignty, to bankrupt the middle class, and usher in 1984 type Neo-Fuedalism, and not do anything to help the environment. You will not find anything about it in the Lame Stream Media, but you will find it all over the the international media.

Copenhagen summit: Denmark rushes in laws to stop carbon trading scam
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/03/copenhagen-summit-carbon-trading-scam

CLIMATE CHANGE 'FRAUD'
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/143573/Climate-change-fraud

In case you do not have it yet here is the link to the whole mother load of Nazi global warming emails - if anyone in the subscriber base wants to download the 62 meg file the link is below —got a download speed of 300K per sec-using bittorrent 6.3 and windows 7 ultimate-this 62 meg file needs to go viral on the net — so people need to download it before the server load melts down all the hosting servers world wide.
 
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5171206/Hadley_CRU_Files_%28FOI2009.zip%29
 
PS: you will never know how much you absolutely hate win xp pro-until you try out win 7 ultimate-also all over piratebay


http://www.prisonplanet.com/bombshell-un-documents-outline-plan-to-use-climategate-crooks-in-end-run-around-national-sovereignty.html

Lord Monckton: Shut Down The UN, Arrest Al Gore
http://www.infowars.com/lord-monckton-shut-down-the-un-arrest-al-gore/
Appearing on The Alex Jones Show yesterday, Lord Christopher Monckton went further than ever before in his vehement opposition to the elitists running the climate change scam, calling for the UN to be shut down and for fraudulent peddlers of global warming propaganda like Al Gore to be arrested and criminally prosecuted.

Monckton said that those who are threatening to shut down economies, bankrupt nations, and deepen the problems of the third world by implementing draconian policies in the name of global warming should be indicted, prosecuted and imprisoned “for a very long time”.

“The fraudsters and racketeers from Al Gore to the people at the University of East Anglia who have been making their fortune at the expense of taxpayers and the little guy,” should be criminally charged, said Monckton, in response to the climategate scandal.

“We the people have got to rise up worldwide, found a party in every country which stands for freedom and make sure we fight this bureaucratic communistic world government monster to a standstill – they shall not pass,” he added.
Monckton said that the United Nations should be “closed down,” adding that he talked to a senior UN ambassador in Canada who told him that he no longer saw any purpose in the UN and it exists “only to enrich itself at the expense of the nations it claims to serve, it’s time it was brought to an end.”

“We would all save billions if we shut down the UN and just about all of its hideous bureaucracy,” said Monckton.

Lord Monckton emphasized how the emails released as a result of climategate prove that global warming alarmism was still prevalent in public but behind closed doors, warmist scientist are admitting that the “deniers” as they label people like Monckton are correct.

“Publicly they’re saying the science is settled, we’re all doomed unless you close down the economies of the west, whereas privately they’re saying to each other ‘we’ve got it wrong, none of this adds up and it’s a travesty that we can’t explain it’.”


Monckton also slammed Obama’s science czar John P. Holdren, who in his 1977 book Ecoscience called for draconian population measures to be enforced by a “planetary regime” in the name of saving the earth, as an “openly admitted communist”.

Monckton pointed out how Holdren had been once of the most prominent alarmists in the 70’s warning about the onset of rapid “global cooling”.
“Now with seamless mendacity he says that what we’re now facing is global warming,” said Monckton.

“How can anyone like Holdren stand up with a straight face and expect anyone to believe it,” he added.

Monckton said that the agenda behind the global warming movement was to set up a communistic world government which will be run by people who “do not care how many people they kill with their policies” and that their goal is to “do away with democracy forever by stealth using the excuse to save the planet.”
Monckton said that the people running the scam had a “deliberate desire to control population by killing people in large numbers deliberately if necessary.”
The former advisor to Margaret Thatcher said that the warmists were sounding more and more desperate and knew that they had been rumbled as a result of climategate, which would only make it more urgent for them to try and force through a binding treaty in Copenhagen.

Monckton said that the answer to combating the move towards neo-feudalism and global government was to form a worldwide “freedom party” that would operate nationally in every country in order to defend freedom, democracy and prosperity while routing out every aspect of the communistic takeover.
“Every time these people try to take it away, we in the freedom party will stop them, and I think now is the time,” said Monckton.
Watch the interview in full below.

Lord Christopher Monckton on Alex Jones Tv 1/5:Lord Monckton Talks About Climategate
http://www.youtube.com/user/FiatLux8888#p/f/3/z1Qhm6YRdJE

Lord Christopher Monckton on Alex Jones Tv 2/5:Lord Monckton Talks About Climategate

http://www.youtube.com/user/FiatLux8888#p/f/2/gS4HrQ4CYZU
Lord Christopher Monckton on Alex Jones Tv 3/5:Lord Monckton Talks About Climategate
http://www.youtube.com/user/FiatLux8888#p/f/1/gCnE6Heb_tE

Lord Christopher Monckton on Alex Jones Tv 4/5:Lord Monckton Talks About Climategate
http://www.youtube.com/user/FiatLux8888#p/a/f/0/gCnE6Heb_tE

Lord Christopher Monckton on Alex Jones Tv 5/5:Lord Monckton Talks About Climategate
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We Are Change Chicago
November 30, 2009

CHICAGO IL – On Tuesday, November 24th 2009, We Are Change Chicago attended a book signing with former vice president Al Gore, at the Borders Bookstore on 150 N. State Street.
The previous Thursday, news had begun to circulate that hacked documents and communications from the University of East Anglia’s Hadley Climate Research Unit (CRU) had been published to the internet. The information revealed how top scientists conspired to falsify data in the face of declining global temperatures in order to prop up the premise that man-made factors are driving climate change. Please review ClimateGate for Dummies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM&feature=player_embedded

To ensure the public that the media and Al Gore are aware of the facts that prove global warming to be a hoax, patriots from WAC Chicago marched to the book signing. Scattered throughout a crowd of a few hundred were members of WAC Chicago ready to ask Al Gore what he thought about ‘ClimateGate.’

First up was Saad Ali. As he approached Gore, he peacefully and respectably asked, “Sir, can you comment on the emails and documents that were hacked [ClimateGate] that reveal… that the research was a fraud and that it was all manipulated?” Gore, with an evil smirk, claimed that “he never read them.” By the look on his face and his stutter, it became quite clear that Gore was extremely uncomfortable with the question, so he quickly glared towards his security. The agents grabbed and assaulted Saad, escorting him away from Gore for merely asking a simple question. The press took notice and started filming and snapping pictures of what was going on. One of which appeared the next day in the Chicago Sun Times.

Following Saad’s confrontation, Sati Word, a member of WAC Chicago, questioned Gore on why the IPCC hasn’t released any reports on sunspot activity. However, before he could get an answer from Gore, security grabbed Sati and escorted him out of the building.

A little while later, Anthony, an activist from We Are Change Ohio, approached Gore and handed him the petition of the 31,486 scientists who say that Global Warming is a complete hoax. Anthony asked, “What do you think about the science behind this sir?” Mr. Gore rolled his eyes, and security escorted him out of the building.

Steve (swizzlesteve), was the last activist to question Gore. Within seconds of asking, “Any comments on ClimateGate? The emails that prove it’s a scam, a farce, that global warming is a joke, any comment?” Mr. Gore is heard to utter a few “uhhhhhhhs” and security quickly steps in to remove him as well.

The press was waiting outside Borders. They wanted to find out who this group was, that dared question what the elite had forced us to consume as truth. WBBM news radio, 780, ran a sound bite of WAC Chicago, WGN news ran footage, Medill Reports wrote an article, and blog posts were popping up all over the internet about the Al Gore confrontation in Chicago. Many also asked about the footage of WAC Chicago chasing after Gore’s SUV after the event. You will find all of it in this video. Al Gore was confronted multiple times in line, outside the event as he rushed to his waiting Mercedes SUV, (were you expecting something electric?), and once again in the streets of Chicago. We Are Change had people outside with signs, banners, fliers, and DVDs.  Activists were inside asking questions and demanding answers; the world is waking up, it’s a great time to be alive.

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Sign the petition before the politicians pass this rediculous health care bill.]]> 2009-12-05T22:29:59-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1497033597.html text 2009-12-05T22:29:59-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1496904961.html A retired Constitutional lawyer has read the entire proposed healthcare bill. Read his conclusions and pass this on as you wish. This is stunning!

Please take the time to read this and forward it out as you see fit. Thanks
The Truth About the Health Care Bills - Michael Connelly, Ret. Constitutional Attorney

Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.

The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government.

However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.

The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own.

The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.

This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, of all of your personal healthcare direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.

If you decide not to have healthcare insurance, or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However, that doesn't work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the due process of law.

So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much, out the original ten in the Bill of Rights, that are effectively nullified by this law It doesn't stop there though.

The 9th Amendment that provides: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people;

The 10th Amendment states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.

I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution." If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it, without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.

For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution, and Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.

Michael Connelly
Retired attorney,
Constitutional Law Instructor
Carrollton , Texas



AFTER HAVING READ THIS, PLEASE FORWARD....

If you don't care about our constitution, or your rights under it, just do nothing.

WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.


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Past Work Experience
•Ran for congress and lost. •Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie. •Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. •Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox. •With father's help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.
Accomplishments in Previous Positions

•Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

•Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

•Set record for most executions by any governor in American history.

•Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my father's appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments As President

•Attacked and took over two countries. •Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury. •Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history. •Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period. •Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market. •First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner. •First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record. •First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history. •After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history. •Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history. •In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job. •Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history. •Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. •Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history. •Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television. •Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history. •Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed. •Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have. •Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans. •Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
•Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history. •My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history. •Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her). •First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt. •Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world. •First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation. •Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States. •Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history. •First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission. •First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board. •Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history. •Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. •Withdrew from the World Court of Law. •Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions. •First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections). •All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations. •My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation). •Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history. •First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community. •First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1) •First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government. •Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history). •With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years. •Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability. •First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea. •Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. •Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts. •Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.' •Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects. •In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States. •Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history. •In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War. •Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down. Records and References
•At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available) •AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war. •Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use. •All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. •All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. •All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. •Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. •For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (they can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering
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Just for the record, I think Clinton was a better president than Bush strictly because he actually had the courage to stand up to Congress and veto budgets if needed. I disagreed with his reasons but at least he had the sack.

As for the surplus under Clinton and lack there of under Bush... Have you ever considered why there was a surplus under Clinton and why it went away under Bush. Have you ever looked at the various speculative bubbles that have come and gone and thought that maybe just maybe Clinton was simply lucky enough to be leaving office when the effects of the bubble busting showed up? Is it possible that the verifiable fact that the US economy was already entering a recession prior to Bush entering office had something to do with Bush's problems? I'm no Bush fan. I didn't vote for him ever but I do feel like all you partisans should actually look at facts and do some critical thinking instead of just reading headlines. Bush screwed up plenty on his own but lets not give Clinton credit for something he was basically just lucky on.

And your point about FDR is wrong. I agree the nation changed drastically under FDR. Maybe in some ways for the better. It also changed in a lot of ways for the worse. FDR led the charge towards central planning in the US. He pushed through Social Security when he knew it wasn't inline with the constitution. I am no economist but I do read a lot. I'd suggest you read some books by other than Keynesian economists about FDR's policies and the depression. And then to be honest, do you really think the republican party of today is the same as it was in the 30's? IF so do you think the Democrat party is the same? So using your logic, the republicans screw up the economy but the republicans are on the side of the black man. Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

I swear I don't know why I read the political board. Just makes me sad about how much people have bought into all the lies they have been told from both sides and the media. Fox news and the big 3 included.]]> 2009-12-02T11:50:58-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1491459586.html text 2009-12-02T11:50:58-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1490245070.html You people are like little rag dolls.]]> 2009-12-01T15:22:17-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1490245070.html text 2009-12-01T15:22:17-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1489700034.html 2009-12-01T10:39:07-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1489700034.html text 2009-12-01T10:39:07-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1489459726.html
The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today."

Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?"
]]> 2009-12-01T04:06:59-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1489459726.html text 2009-12-01T04:06:59-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1488804779.html Stop joining sides, and make a decision on your own.]]> 2009-11-30T17:32:41-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1488804779.html text 2009-11-30T17:32:41-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1488204678.html 2009-11-30T12:44:02-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1488204678.html text 2009-11-30T12:44:02-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1487838770.html 2009-11-30T09:37:43-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1487838770.html text 2009-11-30T09:37:43-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1487512413.html
Money. There is a ton of money involved. research projects, grants. Money spent on green energy projects. Just because a person is a scientist doesn't mean they no longer have the urge to protect their own self-interest.
Power: The party pushing for climate legislation is very interested in increasing the scope of government power. This is a great excuse to do so. The other side of the argument is too interested in the money from big oil to worry about the power yet.
Me personally, I've been all over the world. There is a whole lot more green space that you would believe. The world is a big place. I would think the emissions would do more harm to air quality than global warming. I think that is more a function of solar activity. I have a pretty decent background in physics. I'm not about to go invent warp travel or anything but I’m not an idiot and I don't believe we have made enough stuff to change the temp that much. Additionally I don't think we have the ability to control the climate. I think research money would be better spent coming up with solutions to the problems the eventual climate change (man made or otherwise) will bring onto us. Truth be told, climate change is a distant problem. I worry more about a complete financial and governmental collapse in the nearer term.]]> 2009-11-29T22:59:20-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1487512413.html text 2009-11-29T22:59:20-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1486575637.html Surely nobody thinks that all of the greenhouse gases and pollutants that we introduce into the atmosphere are harmless.]]> 2009-11-29T11:53:45-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1486575637.html text 2009-11-29T11:53:45-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1486206533.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfFB8aVjX4k&feature=sdig&et=1259321287.39
PROOFNEGATIVE PT2 CLIMATEGATE INTERVIEW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qllEcgZQ_GM&feature=sdig&et=1259321287.39
PROOFNEGATIVE PT3 CLIMATEGATE INTERVIEW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcaLKlhmGzI&feature=sdig&et=1259321287.39
PROOFNEGATIVE PT4 CLIMATEGATE INTERVIEW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJzORoxdNc&feature=sdig&et=1259321287.39
PROOFNEGATIVE PT5 CLIMATEGATE INTERVIEW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R31Qph6jwAg&feature=sdig&et=1259321287.39 ]]> 2009-11-28T23:52:34-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1486206533.html text 2009-11-28T23:52:34-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482973006.html
The fastest growing?

None.]]> 2009-11-26T10:38:14-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482973006.html text 2009-11-26T10:38:14-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482914691.html 2009-11-26T09:09:59-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482914691.html text 2009-11-26T09:09:59-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482907575.html 2009-11-26T08:55:47-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482907575.html text 2009-11-26T08:55:47-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482521072.html
www.fbi.gov
Select: "Crime Tip"
Fill out the empty form and then submit.

The Federal Bureau of Investigations is the primary group that handles any corruption, or breaches of Civil Rights Laws for the United States of America and it's citzens.
You are permitted to remain anonymous.]]> 2009-11-25T19:13:50-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482521072.html text 2009-11-25T19:13:50-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482241911.html If I am not a christian leave?
Try to make me, and see how far I can shove that bible down your goddamn throat.]]> 2009-11-25T15:35:25-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1482241911.html text 2009-11-25T15:35:25-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481861672.html Richard Henry Lee, Letters from the Federal Farmer, 1788

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them."
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot's Debates, vol. 3 "The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution."

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence Ć¢ā‚¬Ā¦ from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable Ć¢ā‚¬Ā¦ the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference Ć¢ā‚¬ā€¯ they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
First President of the United States

"The great object is that every man be armed." and "Everyone who is able may have a gun."
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States


"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that Ć¢ā‚¬Ā¦ it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; Ć¢ā‚¬Ā¦ "
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45


"The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
Alexander Hamilton
The Federalist Papers at 184-8

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, other dare not lay them aside...Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them." Thomas Paine

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves..." Richard Henry Lee (taken from Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May 1788.

"...the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms" Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789, Page 2, Column 2; Article on the Bill of Rights

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to preven the people of the United State, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms;..." Samuel Adams - quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789; "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"

"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution." Thomas Jefferson

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." Thomas Jefferson

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." Edmund Burke, British Statesman, 1784

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

"... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950)

"If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained _ we must fight!" Patrick Henry

A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.

Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors.

One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them.

Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors.

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."

Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344.

THOMAS PAINE

"The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world not destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside ... Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them ... the weak will become prey to the strong."

Thomas Paine, Thoughts on Defensive War

JAMES MADISON

"Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust their people with arms."

SAMUEL ADAMS

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms . . ."

GEORGE MASON

"When the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually...I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor..."

George Mason, Virginia Constitution Convention

NOAH WEBSTER

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."

Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787)

TENCHE COXE

"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."

Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788


"If you wish the sympathy of the broad masses, you must tell them the crudest and most stupid things." Adolph Hitler

"Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." Sara Brade, Chairman of Handgun Control Inc; The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism”, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.” (1944 speech by Norman Matton Thomas, candidate for US President). ]]> 2009-11-25T11:40:31-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481861672.html text 2009-11-25T11:40:31-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481859969.html
John Adams, Signer of the Declaration of Independence; One of Two Signers of the Bill of Rights; Second President of the US: “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made for only a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

James Wilson, George Washington's appointment to the Supreme Court: "Christianity is part of the common-law."

John Q. Adams: "The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were . . . the general principles of Christianity."

Noah Webster, publisher of The American Dictionary of the English Language: "Almost all the civil liberty now enjoyed in the world owes its origin to the principles of the Christian religion."

United States Supreme Court, 1844: Vidal v. Girard's Executors (43 U.S. 126, 132) - Justice Joseph Story delivered the Court's opinion. The case was about Stephen Girard (a deist from France) who had moved to Philadelphia, PA and later died there. In his will, he left his entire estate, which was valued at over $7 million, to establish an orphanage and a school. The catch was that "no religious influence be allowed". The city rejected this proposal with their lawyers declaring the following: "The plan of education proposed is anti-Christian and therefore repugnant to the law...The purest principles of morality are to be taught. Where are they found? Whoever searches for them must go to the source from which a Christian man derives his faith - the Bible...There is an obligation to teach what the Bible alone can teach, viz. a pure system of morality...
Both in the Old and New Testaments (religions instruction's) importance is recognized. In the Old it is said, "Thou shalt diligently teach them to thy children," and the New, "Suffer the little children to come unto me and forbid them not..." No fault can be found with Girard for wishing a marble college to bear his name for ever, but it is not valuable unless it has a fragrance of Christianity about it."

The United States Supreme Court rendered its UNANIMOUS opinion in the above case as follows: "Christianity...is not to be maliciously and openly reviled and blasphemed against, to the annoyance of believers or the injury of the public...It is unnecessary for us, however, to consider the establishment of a school or college, for the propagation of...Deism, or any other form of infidelity.
Such a case is not to be presumed to exist in a Christian country....Why may not laymen instruct in the general principles of Christianity as well as ecclesiastics...
And we cannot overlook the blessings, which such [lay] men by their conduct, as well as their instructions, may, nay must impart to their youthful pupils. Why may not the Bible, and especially the New Testament, without note or comment, be read and taught as a divine revelation in the [school] - its general precepts expounded, its evidences explained and its glorious principles of morality inculcated?...
Where can the purest principles of morality be learned so clearly or so perfectly as from the New Testament?
It is also said, and truly, that the Christian religion is a part of the common law of Pennsylvania.¯

Robert E Lee, August 1865 - speaking to his former chaplain, John Williams Jones, in regards to the latter's speaking at Washington College in Lexington, VA (later to become Washington and Lee University):
“Oh, doctor, if I could only know that all the young men in this college were good Christians I should have nothing more to desire.
I wish, sir, to thank you for your address. It was just what we needed. Our great want is a revival which shall bring these young men to Christ.
I should be disappointed, sir, and shall fail in the leading object that brought me here, unless these young men all become Christians; and I wish you and others of your sacred profession to do all you can to accomplish it.
We poor sinners need to come back from our wanderings to seek pardon through the all-sufficient merits of our Redeemer. And we need to pray earnestly for the power of the Holy Spirit to give us a precious revival in our hearts and among the unconverted.

John Adams, June 28, 1813 in a letter to Thomas Jefferson:
The general principles, on which the Fathers achieved independence, were the only Principles in which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could be united. And what were these general Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all these Sects were United: And the general Principles of English and American Liberty, in which all those young Men United, and which had United all Parties in America, in Majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her Independence.
Now I will avow, that I then believe, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty, are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System.
Again United States Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story:
"The real object of the First Amendment was not to countenance, much less to advance Mohammedanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity, but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects [denominations] and to prevent any national ecclesiastical patronage of the national government.
The following quotes are from www.dojgov.net:

"Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are a gift from God? Thomas Jefferson

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson

"(T)he foundation of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality; ...the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained..." George Washington, First Inaugural, April 30 1789

"You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe" John Adams - 2nd Pres.

"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to intermeddle in religion. Its least interference with it would be a most flagrant usurpation." James Madison

March 23, 1775:
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! Patrick Henry


Just to let you know, this is just a sampling of the Christian views of our Founding Fathers and those leaders who followed for over a hundred years. They deliberately created a Christian nation. If you want to be Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist, etc, there are other countries whose religions are these. Our nation was created to favor Christians and Christians are always to be in power in America. If you don't like it, leave and go to one of those other countries. I'm sure they will be more than happy to take you. But don't expect to have a say in how you are governed. Those rights are only derived from the Bible. Only Christianity gives you the wisdom and strength to self-govern. If you can not control your own soul and body, you have no right to even think about self-government. Self-control and self-government always go hand in hand. It is impossible to have one without the other.

]]> 2009-11-25T11:39:27-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481859969.html text 2009-11-25T11:39:27-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481698048.html
As long as the government continues to reward bad behavior, as long as they continue to put peaceful people in cages for things like drug use, as long as they spend millions seeking out and destroying a harmless plant including waiting till harvest week to burn industrial hemp (not marijuana - hemp http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/03/arts/television/03sile.html ) crops, as long as we send our young men and women into harms way for any reason other than our defense (the list goes on) reasoning people will fight taxes, bottom line. Here's and example of how one could say that Jesus says that it's more important to just worship him than to take care of the poor. Have a happy Thanksgiving brother - we might disagree on most things but i love ya.

6 Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper, 7 There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat. 8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? 9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor. 10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me. 11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always. 12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial. 13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.]]> 2009-11-25T09:44:57-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481698048.html text 2009-11-25T09:44:57-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481610271.html 2009-11-25T07:52:57-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481610271.html text 2009-11-25T07:52:57-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481471222.html He definitely didn't have conservative values, especially in the context of his time.
The conservatives, known as the Pharisees, were the ones he was preaching against.
Read Matthew 23, then go fuck yourself.]]> 2009-11-25T00:22:21-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481471222.html text 2009-11-25T00:22:21-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481407574.html 2009-11-24T23:01:56-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481407574.html text 2009-11-24T23:01:56-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481151001.html
"This is not just because of giving to churches. Religious people are more generous than secularists towards explicitly non-religious charities as well. They are also more generous in informal ways, such as giving money to family members, and behaving honestly."

This was not part of George Will's article, and I stand corrected. I would like to see the data used by Mr. Brookes to come to this conclusion, however.]]> 2009-11-24T19:16:34-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481151001.html text 2009-11-24T19:16:34-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481104800.html 2009-11-24T18:38:39-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481104800.html text 2009-11-24T18:38:39-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481096012.html 2009-11-24T18:32:29-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1481096012.html text 2009-11-24T18:32:29-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1480782089.html 2009-11-24T15:10:06-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1480782089.html text 2009-11-24T15:10:06-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1480736615.html 2009-11-24T14:43:45-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1480736615.html text 2009-11-24T14:43:45-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1480609643.html Money given to churches does not all go to charitable functions; most of it goes to support even more superstition.
Giving food to the hungry is charity; giving them bibles and telling them to pray is not.

George Will's article is misleading to the point of being an outright lie, par for the course for him.]]> 2009-11-24T13:35:41-05:00 en-us Copyright © 2009 craigslist, inc. http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1480609643.html text 2009-11-24T13:35:41-05:00 http://charleston.craigslist.org/pol/1480517988.html http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html . If you'd rather bitch about things than read the article let me sum it up for you, Al Gore gave .2% of his families income to charity in 2000 (I'd like to see what the numbers are now) which was one seventh the average. Yet, he is one of the heroes of the left towing the line that those who make more should have to give more. If Al Gore tells you it's raining - whatever you do don't drink it.

March 27, 2008
Conservatives More Liberal Givers
By George Will

WASHINGTON -- Residents of Austin, Texas, home of the state's government and flagship university, have very refined social consciences, if they do say so themselves, and they do say so, speaking via bumper stickers. Don R. Willett, a justice of the state Supreme Court, has commuted behind bumpers proclaiming "Better a Bleeding Heart Than None at All," "Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless Beauty," "The Moral High Ground Is Built on Compassion," "Arms Are For Hugging," "Will Work (When the Jobs Come Back From India)," "Jesus Is a Liberal," "God Wants Spiritual Fruits, Not Religious Nuts," "The Road to Hell Is Paved With Republicans," "Republicans Are People Too -- Mean, Selfish, Greedy People" and so on. But Willett thinks Austin subverts a stereotype: "The belief that liberals care more about the poor may scratch a partisan or ideological itch, but the facts are hostile witnesses."

Sixteen months ago, Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, published "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism." The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives.

If many conservatives are liberals who have been mugged by reality, Brooks, a registered independent, is, as a reviewer of his book said, a social scientist who has been mugged by data. They include these findings:

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

-- Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

-- In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

-- People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

Brooks demonstrates a correlation between charitable behavior and "the values that lie beneath" liberal and conservative labels. Two influences on charitable behavior are religion and attitudes about the proper role of government.

The single biggest predictor of someone's altruism, Willett says, is religion. It increasingly correlates with conservative political affiliations because, as Brooks' book says, "the percentage of self-described Democrats who say they have 'no religion' has more than quadrupled since the early 1970s." America is largely divided between religious givers and secular nongivers, and the former are disproportionately conservative. One demonstration that religion is a strong determinant of charitable behavior is that the least charitable cohort is a relatively small one -- secular conservatives.

Reviewing Brooks' book in the Texas Review of Law & Politics, Justice Willett notes that Austin -- it voted 56 percent for Kerry while he was getting just 38 percent statewide -- is ranked by The Chronicle of Philanthropy as 48th out of America's 50 largest cities in per capita charitable giving. Brooks' data about disparities between liberals' and conservatives' charitable giving fit these facts: Democrats represent a majority of the wealthiest congressional districts, and half of America's richest households live in states where both senators are Democrats.

While conservatives tend to regard giving as a personal rather than governmental responsibility, some liberals consider private charity a retrograde phenomenon -- a poor palliative for an inadequate welfare state, and a distraction from achieving adequacy by force, by increasing taxes. Ralph Nader, running for president in 2000, said: "A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity." Brooks, however, warns: "If support for a policy that does not exist ... substitutes for private charity, the needy are left worse off than before. It is one of the bitterest ironies of liberal politics today that political opinions are apparently taking the place of help for others."

In 2000, brows were furrowed in perplexity because Vice President Al Gore's charitable contributions, as a percentage of his income, were below the national average: He gave 0.2 percent of his family income, one-seventh of the average for donating households. But Gore "gave at the office." By using public office to give other peoples' money to government programs, he was being charitable, as liberals increasingly, and conveniently, understand that word.
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What really gets me these days, is that the moment someone is critical of the current administration they're labeled republican. Let anyone think Clinton was an amoral ass that used his office to get his jollies (and corrupt buddies) off, and someone starts yelling at the top of their lungs REPUBLICAN!

I'm NOT REPUBLICAN. I'm NOT DEMOCRAT. I am AMERICAN. I'm disgusted by the whole lot of them. I'm sick of all POLITICIANS and I wish they'd have been a little more responsible with my money, my children's money, my granchildren's money, my great-grandchildren's money, etc. I'm sick of the missappropriations, the theft that goes on every week that I cash my check, the lobbyist, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd...oh, the list goes on and on and on and on.

Am I critical? You're GODDAMNED RIGHT!

You're so quick with labels and your ignorance is monumental! Clinton got it wrong. Bush got it wrong. Obama is getting it wrong. AND I'M NOT REPUBLICAN...

So here's some labels for you (and you wear them well) Left wing liberal, Nancy (Pelosi) Pants, Kool-aid drinker, Thoughtless Wonder, Mindless Democrat.

I'm going to leave you to your Bush bashing...have a good time. Have a good time bowing to Clinton...be careful, though, he likes people bending at the hips.

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